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Meeting Minutes

October 28, 1999


Board Members Present: Mike Clumpner, Sandy Dercole, Jeremy Shea, Sister Mary Beth Kornely, Gerard Randall, Mary Jo Green

HEAB Staff Present: Jane Hojan-Clark, Mary Lou Kuzdas, Sandra Thomas, John Whitt, Jim Buske, Alice Winters

Other Present: Tom Flaschberger, Margaret Zitzer, Shelly Gardner, Andrew Richards, Katharine Hildebrand, Julie Schaefer, Rolf Wegenke, Mary Roggeman, Agnes Fleming, Dana Gretz

The meeting was called to order at 9:07 a.m. by Mike Clumpner, Chair.

A public hearing was held on the revised rules being proposed for the Minority Teachers Loan Program prior to the Board meeting. Jane Hojan-Clark, Executive Director reviewed the need for the Emergency Rules. Under the current HEAB administered program, students must be enrolled full time and show financial need to participate. Students who did not enroll full time and did not show financial need were allowed to participate in the program in the past when the University of Wisconsin System Administration governed the program. Under the current HEAB administered program, they are not eligible. Unless the Board changes its rules, many participating students will lose their eligibility in the program. This would cause a hardship to those students who relied on the interpretation of the prior system administration. This emergency rule expands the eligibility rule. The emergency rules went into effect on August 6, 1999 for 150 days ending January 2, 2000 and can request an additional 120 days if needed. Staff is currently pursing a permanent change.

The Chairman announced the lack of a quorum and offered the public hearing participants an opportunity to request to "represent" their case at another occasion when a quorum is present but it must be requested in writing.

Dr. Martin Habermann, UW Milwaukee Professor provided testimony. The UW Milwaukee has been running the program for 10 years. College graduates work as paraprofessionals and aids in the Milwaukee school systems to prepare minority teachers for Milwaukee schools and earn $12,000/year. Requirements are that the person have one year of service in the Milwaukee Public School Systems and be a college graduate. This is a very special group of students - 71% African American with intern programs that earn $27,500 per year. The Aids are part-time staff trained on the job. This provides a very successful model for other large cities. Milwaukee Public School hired 800 but need 1000 and 18% of them were African American. Board reports are located in the board packet.

Mary E. Roggeman, UW Milwaukee Director of Financial Aid, provided testimony. A handout was also prepared in support of the proposed changes regarding the eligibility criteria for participation in the Minority Teacher Loan Program. The program has been very successful. It has been a good recruiting tool in minority education to reduce unsubsidized loans. UW Milwaukee has been a strong component in developing access to minority populations in urban areas.

Chairman Clumpner closed the public hearing session at 9:34 A.M.

The agenda moved to introductions and consideration of board reports provided by Jane Hojan-Clark.

#00-1 Finding of Emergency for the Minority Teacher Loan Program - Information from the public hearing was summarized.

#00-2 Student Aid Expenditures, 1999-2000. A statistical analysis of the current programs was reviewed.

#00-3 Academic Excellence Scholarship Survey - The information was gathered through surveys and from discussions. The tables are broken down by class levels and by the total number of scholars. This is so the users can be identified. For example: UW Madison has the top number of scholars and amount of money spent. This also can tell how students need financial aid.

The number of students using Wisconsin grants from 1999 compared to 1995 has risen. This shows that more high school graduates want to stay in Wisconsin to attend school. Students say that the amount of financial aid they can receive affects their decision to stay in Wisconsin.

#00-4 Minnesota/Wisconsin Reciprocity - Tuition differences are expanding. They are allowing more flexibility in tuition costs. This should be looked into further. Members met with Minnesota to discuss tuition costs for the University of Minnesota.


Chairman Clumpner announced there is a quorum. A motion was made by Jeremy Shea and second by Sr. Mary Beth Kornely to approve the Board minutes from February 26, 1999 with the correction of spelling of Catharine Lyall's name. Approved.


Jane Hojan-Clark reviewed personnel changes. Jim Buske was introduced. Lowell Mayes has decided to retire and Sherry Nelson (the Human Resources Officer) has taken his place. She is doing both positions until her position is filled. An update was provided on statutory changes. A new grant/loan program may be available for teachers of visually impaired students. Childcare providers may also have loan assistance once they have finished their program. The 1997-1999 Biennial Report was distributed. This summary report is to be submitted once every 2 years. It will contain analysis of agency's reports for 1997-1999. Jane distributed the NASSGAP Annual Summary Report and a one-page summary as appeared in the Chronicle of Higher Education. Wisconsin continues to hold it's own in the State rankings of State aid provided. A schedule was distributed for the statewide High School Counselor's Workshops being organized with WASFAA again this year. This is an annual event and is very well received by the High Schools in an effort to update them on Financial Aid resources and process for the next year.

#00-5 Status of 1999-2000 Applicants and Programs

#00-6 1999-2000 WHEG and WTG Program Formulas


Governor's Veto Power was exercised. UW WHEG received a 9.6% increase the first year; the second year 0% increase in support of a tuition freeze. WTCS WHEG received 6% each year. The WTG and TIP increases were 7% from the first year and 7% from the second year. Overall, HEAB Programs experienced a substantial increase of funds to the programs.


Jane reviewed the current status of the federal budget. The year started October 1, 1999. A continuing resolution was passed to expire tonight, October 28.


Tom Flashberger, Agnes Fleming and Dana Gretz from the Lac Courte Oreilles Community College presented slides and a fact sheet explaining the Community College, its mission and population. The school does not just serve tribal students; 30% are non-Indian students; students that cannot go to other technical colleges because of the location. Many of the students do not have transportation. The school is located in Sawyer County area; a popular tourist area of Wisconsin. The closest higher education facility is more than one hour a way. Tribal colleges graduate more native Americans than any technical college and university in the state combined. The College has 12 associate degrees and 8 certificate programs. All students have the option to learn more about the Native American culture. Introduction to tribal cultures is a general education requirement. Reduced juvenile crime rates because of after school extra-curricular activities. The school is financially stable; they owe nothing.


There currently are three vacant spots that have not been appointed yet. Chairman Clumpner recommended delaying election of officers until next meeting.


Approaches in addressing issue of "brain drain". This may need to be an agenda item.

Sister Mary Beth Kornley had some concerns about the turnaround time of HEAB when there are changes to the EFC through EDE corrections. Jane indicated that records are built by student rather than by school. They will continue to look at what the agency does with the data. Jane suggested that schools continue to make the changes to HEAB and to the federal processor. The federal processor can override what HEAB changes manually, so it is important to make the change at both places. Jane will address in monthly memo.


The next meeting is scheduled for Friday, February 25 and, if needed, Friday, April 28. Everyone should submit e-mail addresses to Jane if they have them for easier means of communication.

There was a motion made by Jeremy Shea and a second by Gerard Randall to adjourn. Approved. Meeting adjourned at 11:48 a.m.


Mary Jo Green


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